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banjolin
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Post The Wednesday Night Session
on: October 13, 2009, 15:04

Repost from Andybanjo:

Changes to the Wednesday night session ….

I’m not sure whether this is the best forum for working this out but it’s accessible to all and very easy to use – and avoids the possible pitfalls of the multiple-addressee e-mail

perhaps wednesday evenings could have a section at the beginning of the event where particular sets of tunes are worked on/played through a number of times with a view to getting all the players “up to speed” with them? there are several considerations here:

– should the sets be agreed in advance or simply suggested “on the fly”?

(my view is that it ought to be flexible enough to cater for both but, practically speaking, it may be more successful with a bit of advance planning for those – like me – who are supposed to know the sets well but sometimes have difficulty summoning up the correct “B” parts)

- should there be written versions available (homework sets .. :-)?

(my view is that this is likely to be of considerable benefit to many beginners – as would recordings, though they would be more difficult to organise …….. )

- how should players (particularly beginners) be made aware of the change?

(my view is spread it wide and use every means we can think of – but be very specific about what is going on!)

- how much of the evening should be devoted to this, bearing in mind that the pub, whilst not busy or demanding, may have limited tolerance threshold for repeats of a given set of tunes

(my view is ?maybe? the first hour but it ought to be flexible enough to change according to what the actual players there on any given evening want – and what the pub will stand for …. )

- who should bring sets to be worked on?

(my view is that it must be open to ALL participants to bring things along, not just the people who have historically provided new material. on the one hand, it is essential for new tune sets to filter into the normal run of playing – but, on the other hand, beginners might well want to learn some of the things that are already played. probably a mixture of things would provide the best combination of things for beginners and stuff to catch the imagination of the regulars)

I am quite sure that there are other aspects of this which escape me at the moment but I think it’s a topic/proposal that is well worth exploring

Changes to the Wednesday night session ….

I’m not sure whether this is the best forum for working this out but it’s accessible to all and very easy to use – and avoids the possible pitfalls of the multiple-addressee e-mail

perhaps wednesday evenings could have a section at the beginning of the event where particular sets of tunes are worked on/played through a number of times with a view to getting all the players “up to speed” with them? there are several considerations here:

– should the sets be agreed in advance or simply suggested “on the fly”?

(my view is that it ought to be flexible enough to cater for both but, practically speaking, it may be more successful with a bit of advance planning for those – like me – who are supposed to know the sets well but sometimes have difficulty summoning up the correct “B” parts)

- should there be written versions available (homework sets .. :-)?

(my view is that this is likely to be of considerable benefit to many beginners – as would recordings, though they would be more difficult to organise …….. )

- how should players (particularly beginners) be made aware of the change?

(my view is spread it wide and use every means we can think of – but be very specific about what is going on!)

- how much of the evening should be devoted to this, bearing in mind that the pub, whilst not busy or demanding, may have limited tolerance threshold for repeats of a given set of tunes

(my view is ?maybe? the first hour but it ought to be flexible enough to change according to what the actual players there on any given evening want – and what the pub will stand for …. )

- who should bring sets to be worked on?

(my view is that it must be open to ALL participants to bring things along, not just the people who have historically provided new material. on the one hand, it is essential for new tune sets to filter into the normal run of playing – but, on the other hand, beginners might well want to learn some of the things that are already played. probably a mixture of things would provide the best combination of things for beginners and stuff to catch the imagination of the regulars)

I am quite sure that there are other aspects of this which escape me at the moment but I think it’s a topic/proposal that is well worth exploring
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banjolin
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Post Re: The Wednesday Night Session
on: October 13, 2009, 15:06

Repost from Banjolin:

I like this idea and the way it’s going.

I find the written versions in Mally’s books most unhelpful as they often stray quite a distance from what we play. It is often difficult to reconcile the two.

A ‘Bear Bones’ type of score would be very welcome to complement a recording. There are several places on-line where these may be sourced and several people have very good archives of these tunes as well. I would certainly help in recording and / or publishing tunes and sets for the group and of course in spreading the word. It would be good if it were a mutual aid kind of thing where everyone made some contribution and stuff was simply exchanged but that may not be possible for everyone.

My preference / views are:

- On the fly mainly
- No written homework! But written versions would be useful, maybe to distribute afterwards / next week
- Recordings would be useful to practice against.
- Probably 30-40 minutes of the session devoted to this
– Flexible, yes
- Open to all, yes

banjolin
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Post Re: The Wednesday Night Session
on: October 13, 2009, 15:06

Repost from PeteMay:

I’m in favour of possibly making Wednesdays something more like a specific teaching/learning session. Would the Gearge at Molash cope with that? I don’t really enjoy our overall sound in our present format these days, it just doesn’t seem to sound as satisfying, and there aren’t enough of us carrying the tunes confidently and accurately enough. Maybe we should fix it so we all meet soon on a specific Wednesday, not for tunes, but for a sort of deliberate ‘AGM’. I think we should ensure that everyone who plays regularly in our session can attend on that date, so no-one misses out on what we discuss and agree. I reckon unless we change and develop into something else, deliberately, our days are probably numbered! My health/playing problems aside, I’m committed to playing and developing ITM, I love the tunes.

banjolin
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Post Re: The Wednesday Night Session
on: October 13, 2009, 15:07

Repost from LurcherJohn:

As the newest of the regulars I feel I have the most to gain from these suggestions. A learning section to start the session would be great. I would find playing sets at a slower speed particularly useful but followed by proper tempo to hear the swing. Andy made the point that the listeners might not spot the difference anyway.

At slower speeds the dots might be useful to play from or to make sure we agree on what we’re playing. It would also be useful to help new comers. Maybe music allowed for first 30 minutes for new tunes, then on with the usual session. I am more than happy to print out music if needed, either in full or the set reminder versions I’ve done. I appreciate that using music would be a departure from usual practice.

I find tune learning best done in solitude since we all learn in different ways. Going through a tune note by note doesn’t seem appropriate in a pub. This would tie in with the idea of homework sets where we learn the tunes by heart at home but play them in the session at gradually increasing speeds over a few weeks. Pete’s list has many tunes we rarely play so there is plenty of material there and we all of us keep finding new tunes.

The disadvantage of a learning section of a session is that the better players might find it less enjoyable and stop coming. Good players have an insight of what is going on in the music i.e. how the rhythm works as well as variations and ornaments. Listening to and watching good players has to be the best way to improve, so if we can get a working compromise we have a chance of continuing.

It would be good to attract players new to the music (it’s 5 years since I found you) but we must make it attractive for good players. Think of the fun Susannah and Serena brought to the session.

I was heartened to read Pete’s last line: I’m committed to playing and developing ITM, I love the tunes.

I am very grateful to all you more experienced players and do hope we can keep playing the music.

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